I have been reading all the posts on this subject with interest - but also with the sense of being "guilt tripped" and made to experience self loathing in some way, which has made me uncomfortable. I am 72 years old and have been living with my partner for 24 years. We are both lacto vegetarian (with the occasional fish dinner) and whereas we used to feel virtuous, that is no longer the case. I would happily become vegan (though I would struggle with losing butter, cheese and milk in my tea) but my partner point blank refuses to give up dairy and is not willing to try. So, what Open is saying, it would appear, is if I want to access 5D I have to split up with my partner or have ongoing arguments about food. I am not prepared to do this at my age and wouldn't be able to afford to, even if I wanted to. So I will continue my spiritual quest as a "sinner" and try to access the void when I pop my clogs in the not too distant future. Blessings and good luck to all the other "sinners" on this forum. One last point - did not Yeshua (possibly Chris Bourne himself) say that it was more important to be vigilant about what came out of ones mouth rather than what went into it? This may well be a Roman myth of course.