Okay - a powerful sharing, and during so, my soul was dancing with yours in the higher dimensions, but as I always, but always say, this is MY experience, what is YOURS? What resonates and how do you feel to work with it? So, having said that... It feels like you have a collective past with them, one that needs to be healed in you, and the likelihood is, they are here to help. That's my sense, but nevertheless go carefully. The way the Orions were tricked, was to go out of body into "love and light" - as happens so often here in the spiritual mainstream. Just fragments of soul are left behind in the density and other energies can come in - the soul is then harvested by interdimensional malevolent beings. Again, this has been prevalent on earth, and to me, actually IS the Homo Sapiens condition. Homo Sapiens is designed to receive this intervention - until you fully infuse soul and overcome it by ejecting it from within you. This is true transcendence through empowerment, by infusion of soul. If someone whose not fully embodied, tries to push energy out of themselves or help others ascend through the creation of ascending spirals of energy - energy portals - what can happen is that their own soul goes out of body to some degree, which can be very risky. So the way to achieve this kind of highly advanced energy work successfully, is first to fully ground in the body. I suspect to do this in their presence, for you Heike, will involve confronting the very karma that is activating (it always does). In this case, my sense is it would activate a lot of trauma (and therefore potential for healing) to contemplate being fooled/conned into leaving your body and thereby loosing yourself for some considerable time. What would it feel like to be held in some alternate reality - an illusionary bubble or amniotic sack, rather like in the film The Matrix? (This imagery was hugely based on truth). So in working through this karma, is to fully infuse and ground soul into the lower three vehicles: physical, emotional and intellectual (although my sense is you're already well infused through the intellectual). From that place, essentially you polarise your consciousness into two levels of awareness. I could say "split your consciousness", but although more understandable, this would be incorrect. The two streams of consciousness must remain connected. One aspect of your awareness remains grounded in the physical/emotional/intellectual vehicles, but then you also, simultaneously, project out through the 4th Density vehicle. Now, because you are grounded and earthed - you have all the power you need. Your energy in the fourth density becomes unstoppable - providing that is, it remains aligned. This is highly advanced energy work. I begin to share it first on the Openhand Facilitator Program. But I sense your soul already asking for the explanation, and so it must be ready to activate at this kind of level. I would suggest exploring what, and how, my sharing resonates. What does it activate and kick off? Sending love Open *give_rose*